For Immediate Release
Chris Freeman – Free World Columnist
Peace Freedom & Prosperity Movement
Recently I had the pleasure to speak with once War veteran now Defender of Freedom, Adam Kokesh. If you don’t know by now he has a television show Adam VS The Man (www.adamvstheman.com) where segments are based around a foundation of Freedom. The recent wrongful arrests and assaults him and his fellows endured while dancing at the Thomas Jefferson memorial has had quite a lot of attention and support from people all over. With new demonstrations to come this weekend that has spread from state to state and now even in Canada, Paris, England and India participating in this Safety Dance for Liberty. I thought this to be a good time to talk one on one with Adam to see what all the excitement is about for the upcoming events and what this all means for the Freedom movement.
Below is how our conversation went.
-Hi Adam thank you for taking the time with me to have a chat this evening. I’ve been following you through the freedom movement for some time now since you had returned from the Iraq war and began to speak out.
I thought that this would be a good time to sit down with you and have a Q and A session around what recently took place at the Jefferson Memorial and get your thoughts and advice on a few things.
First, we all know how you and your friends of Liberty were wrongfully assaulted and arrested on May 28th 2011 for exercising your natural and constitutionally protected rights to dance at the Thomas Jefferson Memorial.
After your arrest it’s become completely apparent how this has since started many brush fires in the minds of men and women across the country. (Which at the end of this article I will link to all the events currently planned for June 4th that coincide in support of your event.)
Following the story I am aware somewhat how and why you and your friends peacefully assembled together to petition the government for redress of grievances and to exercise your freedom of expression but I wanted to get it from you directly if you wouldn’t mind filling in our readers as to what got you guys there in the first place?
Question: How did this all start?
Answer: Eddie Dickey and Jared Denman organized the event and I just helped promote it a little and showed up to have a good time. I was actually hoping to “get away with the dancing” and not get arrested. I like the way you put that: peacefully assembled together to petition the government for redress of grievances. It came from the event in 2008 when a small group did what we were doing, dancing with headphones on, at midnight, on TJ’s birthday, resulting in the arrest of Mary Oberwetter. After a long court battle, it was finally ruled that the dancing ban was Constitutional, but by obviously faulty reasoning on the part of the Judge.
Question: I know that after I saw the footage ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kFQEbLyPSQ ) of what happened and heard that you were going to return the following week in a further example of civil disobedience, we immediately started an event here in Arizona to coincide with the upcoming event June 4th.
How do you feel now that so many other people in so many other states have picked up and started similar events to make a joint statement to the government that “We can dance if we want to!”?
Answer: I feel energized! I love it! The most satisfying thing to me as an activist is to inspire others to action and especially when that action is civil disobedience.
Being as though you served in the military, and was being peaceful at the event, I as well as our readers here would love to hear what is your response to such statements?
Answer: May your chains rest lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! Or at least, that’s what Sam Adams would say.
What situation in your life or for what reason at the time led you to make the decision to become enlisted in the United States military service?
Answer: Well, going to Devil Pups, which is a Marine Corps junior boot camp kids get sent to as an alternative to juvie sometimes, was a really big deal for me. But as for actually enlisting, I just wanted to be a part of the national defense and have my life on the line for my country.
Question: I am sure it’s different for each person but at what moment did you become aware of the content contained within the Constitution?
Is this something that they teach you in military training before a soldier takes the oath or generally speaking can the constitution and military training (together) be comparable to reciting the pledge of allegiance in kindergarten? (not understanding the content) And if so does this frighten you or does the powerful transformation that takes place from understanding the principals of Liberty in an individual cancel out that danger?
Answer: They definitely don’t teach you about that in the military. Most enlistees taking an oath have just graduated from high school and couldn’t tell you what’s in the Constitution any more than they could find you a box of grid squares. But I think that’s changing because soldiers in general are educating themselves now, mostly online, and I get a lot of fan mail from active duty guys who want to stay anonymous, but say they’re glad someone is speaking to how they feel.
I don’t think I got to a true meaning of the Constitution until I watched all of Michael Badnarik’s Constitution class online. But to ask, “what was the moment” is to suggest that people have an epiphany about liberty and transform in a moment and it just doesn’t happen that way for most people. And for me too, it was a gradual process.
Question: Looking back at your trials over the last decade, and everything that you’ve been through. What is some advice that you can lend to your brothers overseas currently in the military that can help them deal with the internal conflict that arrives from beginning to learn that things just aren’t right?
Answer: Face up to reality. It’s not always easy at first, but you have to accept the facts with an open mind. The facts about who controls our foreign policy and why as well as your own role in it. Then start speaking out. It’s the same way as dealing with PTSD. If you sit on ideas or feelings that only exist within you because of a desire to share them in the first place, you will be much better off when you do. But be sensible, and make rational decision about to what level of risk you are willing to take to set things right. I know I’d risk everything, but a lot of guys have families and aren’t able to do some of the things I’ve done.
Question: What advice can you give to the activists here at home in regards to protesting the illegal occupations and failed foreign policies without being disrespectful to the troops themselves, their family members and friends? I myself have found it difficult to get across the message regarding this without upsetting people that think I am being ‘unpatriotic’ or disrespectful to those on the lines; When all I’m really saying is that we want the troops home now and why.
Answer: Just remember that we need to support the troops because we’ll need their help to overthrow the government. (Peacefully of course.)
Question: Getting back to the scheduled events coming up June 4th, with the main one being at the Thomas Jefferson Memorial in DC; What do you have to say to all those that are going to dance if they want to? Why is this so important? And why do you think so many people have taken an interest seemingly overnight?
Answer: If they want to come and dance, come and have fun! But, well, I have a confession to make. I won’t actually be dancing. I’ll be protesting like – I mean – DANCING like an Egyptian. This is important because divide and conquer tactics have worked and a lot of people want to come together around something that is totally unobjectionable: DANCING!
Question: And I must know as I am sure others out there are curious as well. What was playing on your ipod as the police assaulted you and what’s in your playlist for the upcoming event this weekend?
I understand that you take your oath to the US Constitution seriously and I deeply commend and respect you for that. But I must ask. Which is more important to you and why: The US Constitution or The Declaration of Independence? :)
Answer: Absolutely the Declaration, but really neither. They are both just documents. It is the ideals of liberty expressed within the Declaration that are sacred, not the document, not the words. After that, the Constitution was the founder’s best attempt to embody those ideals in a practical form of government and they did a wonderful job, but they also made some mistakes. And at this point, we should be questioning the actual effectiveness of the Constitution in safeguarding those ideals because, I don’t know if you noticed, but they’re not doing so well these days. Maybe we can restore the ideals with the Constitution, maybe we can’t, but those ideals are present in that document too, and as we swear an oath to it, deserves a certain amount of respect.
Chris Freeman: Again I want to thank you for taking the time to speak with me and just tell you that no matter what happens an idea’s time that has come is unstoppable and inevitable. Thank you for all that you do to help further the cause of Liberty and I just pray a hedge of protection around you and everyone else that wishes to be free. For it is our birth-right and our destiny to be free, together.
I believe with my whole heart that it’s confusion in ideology which has separated mankind and in this I draw hope as I know that ideology is something which can be changed. For when any individual comes to understand the true nature of Liberty and the natural boundary within it, they are forever changed in the way that they view and treat others. It’s the principals which transforms children into grown men and women.
To everyone out there, keep it real, have fun and let’s show them that “we can dance if we want to! We can leave your world behind!”
…And as promised
LOCATIONS OF THE DANCE PARTIES ARE AS FOLLOWS:
(Make sure to check the national event page for new one listed as they come)
The main event in D.C
DANCE PARTY @ TJ’S!!!
Click here to view the national event:
AZ – Phoenix
Wesley Bolin Plaza – 12:00pm
Washington St & 15th Ave
CA – SAN DIEGO:
Saturday, June 4 · 12:00pm – 1:00pm
880 Front Street
San Diego, CA
MO – KANSAS CITY:
WWI Monument/Liberty Memorial Steps
100 W. 26th Street, Kansas City, MO 64108
******THIS EVENT IS AT 3PM FOR KC LOCATION ONLY*********
MO – ST LOUIS:
Gateway Arch & Old Courthouse
11 North 4th Street, Saint Louis, MO 63102
MS- BILOXI BEACH
Porter and US-90 by the Civil Rights Wade in sign
TX – AUSTIN:
Texas Capitol Building
TX – SAN MARCOS
Jack C Hays Statute – Downtown San Marcos & Local Historical Monuments
WI – MADISON:
The Madison Capitol
2 East Main Street, Madison, WI 53702
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=221238111228252 (San Diego)
National Memorial Dance Party (Boston)
Dance Party at TJ’s New Delhi, India
5, Tees January Marg
New Delhi, India
Darlington, England, 5PM local
//more to come stay tuned!
Chris Freeman – Writer on the Storm